Secret of Orange Cats Revealed After 60-Year Search

(sciencealert.com)

56 points | by bookofjoe 1 day ago

6 comments

  • bookofjoe 15 minutes ago
    • drooopy 6 minutes ago
      Recently I went through the list of all of the subs that I follow and 80% of them were all cat related.
  • stuaxo 25 minutes ago
    Wait, do people in the US really call them "orange cats" - I just thought that was a reddit / internet thing.

    In the UK these are ginger cats.

    • SwiftyBug 2 minutes ago
      We call them orange cats (gatos laranjas) in Portuguese too!
    • drooopy 19 minutes ago
      Cookie vs biscuit, vacation vs holiday, gasoline vs petrol, etc, etc.
    • orphea 19 minutes ago
      Many places outside the US call them orange as well.
    • gedy 13 minutes ago
      You might be shocked that we say "red heads" instead of ginger as well.
    • ReptileMan 14 minutes ago
      UK and USA are brotherly nations divided only by their common language.
  • ourmandave 1 hour ago
    60 years of dissecting fluffy orange kittens is a lot of fluffy orange kittens. =(
    • shiandow 38 minutes ago
      Why would you need to dissect kittens for a gene study?
      • ReptileMan 13 minutes ago
        You would make a terrible Igor
  • thesebas 1 hour ago
    • rob74 1 hour ago
      My experience (cat owner myself, son of cat owners and regular cat-sitter) confirms what the article says: orange cats are no more or less prone to doing seemingly stupid/weird things than cats of any other color. More seriously, I think this stereotype is a direct continuation of stereotypes against red-haired humans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_against_people_...), so it shouldn't be encouraged...
      • adzm 47 minutes ago
        Most likely this is because orange cats are almost always male, and (neutered) male cats tend to be goofier than females.

        I think the association with discrimination against red haired humans is a stretch though

        • mschuster91 36 minutes ago
          Tell that to my female Standard Issue Cats lol. One is food motivated, pretty intelligent when it comes to food and pretty fat, and her twin sister is routinely making me wonder if she's an orange cat with a modified fur. Dumb as rocks but excessively cute.
      • Noaidi 1 minute ago
        Did you know people with blue eyes are more likely to have bipolar disorder? This of course doesn’t mean everyone blue eyes has bipolar disorder but it makes it more likely. I think the issue may be playing out in orange cats as well. It’s certainly not going to give me every orange is weird, but it increases the likelihood and I think that’s why we see the stereotype play out.

        I had an orange cat growing up in the 1970s well before the Internet and out of the seven cast I own as a child. It was very much different.

      • forinti 23 minutes ago
        I had couple of cats (orange male and tortoiseshell female) that lived 20 years after I picked them off the street. The female had only one kidney and the male had an extra vertebra but these things only became a problem in their last year.

        They were both very calm creatures. The male was one of the most gentle cats I've ever known. I really miss him greeting me by nodding at me from the sofa when I got home.

      • khelavastr 32 minutes ago
        I was just thinking how behavioral differences of red haired foxes, cats, and humans from their closest relatives are explained by the same sort of proopiomelanocortin and other substantia nigra differences from weak MC1R activity.
      • xattt 52 minutes ago
        Tangential and sample size n = 1, but the two orange cats in my life were spankers/lovers of cat bongos whereas all other coloured cats were not.

        There is something different about them, and the red hair thing is a coincidence.

        • Cthulhu_ 41 minutes ago
          We have a tuxedo boi who is a big fan of the butt bongos, n=1 again but still.
      • Oarch 40 minutes ago
        Hey, some of us love and appreciate that red hair too!
  • MichaelZuo 20 minutes ago
    “ Arhgap36 is known to cause developmental problems in other animals when it is over- or under-functioning. But it seems that in orange cats, the gene is overexpressed only in developing and mature pigment cells called melanocytes.”

    This doesn’t make sense… if thousands of anecdotal reports in cats specifically report otherwise? And if it’s known to not be limited to melanocytes in other mammalian species?

    • Noaidi 3 minutes ago
      Humans carry this GTPase as well. GTP is energy source of receptors called G protein coupled receptors. They are about 750 these and many of them are catecholamine receptors, like the serotonin and dopamine receptors.

      Humans also carry this gene. https://www.uniprot.org/uniprotkb/Q6ZRI8/entry

      In humans, both DNA and RNA are mostly expressed in the brain and in the endocrine system.

      https://www.proteinatlas.org/ENSG00000147256-ARHGAP36/tissue

      For cats it very well may be different. Genes do not express activity the same indifferent species and they’re definitely not the same in different parts of the body. Genes can express RNA in one part of the body and more DNA and another part.

      But I think this deletion is really about how it affects the methylation the gene.

  • bitwize 31 minutes ago
    They finally proved that the brain cells of all orange cats are a single brain cell in a quantum state of superposition between all of them? Erwin Schrödinger would be proud.