14 comments

  • Conlectus 5 minutes ago
    There’s a specific downside to LLM-based development that people can get neck deep in a new project without interfacing with the existing work in the field.

    In this case, this is basically a poorly specified implementation of half of XMPP. Of course, I half expect the LLM would have mentioned that at some point, but the repository does not.

  • singpolyma3 7 minutes ago
    So rooms are "global" between whatever hosts your host happens to know about? So it's one giant netsplit party forever and only your server admin can ban someone?
  • davidcollantes 2 hours ago
    Parley is a chat network with no centre.

    Every person (or team) runs a small instance for their own domain. Instances find each other through DNS and well-known identity documents, exchange signed messages over HTTPS, and present the whole federated network to ordinary IRC clients such as Lurker, Mango, mIRC, WeeChat, Textual, etc., without the need of any plugins.

    • someonebaggy 23 minutes ago
      This is an AI-generated summary of TFA?
    • altilunium 1 hour ago
      can any layman user simply use it without running their own instance?
      • davidcollantes 1 hour ago
        Yes, you will need to know someone running an instance to create an account for you.
        • grim_io 1 hour ago
          So... no? :)
          • NoboruWataya 52 minutes ago
            Presumably if the protocol becomes popular you will have public instances that anyone* can sign up to, the same way other federated services work now.

            (It's approximately as hard for a layman user to sign up to a Mastodon instance as it is to sign up for X. The fact that most layman users don't do that is a separate issue.)

          • jagged-chisel 1 hour ago
            Yes, you can try it without running your own instance. You will need to use someone else's instance.
        • davidcollantes 1 hour ago
          If you (top and child commentator) want to try without running your own, please send me an email: david dot collantes at gmail dot com.
  • user2722 19 minutes ago
    I had a pseudo-plan for something like this but for reasons related to privacy I had two types of chatrooms:

    * regular chats, existing only on the server, no leaking the chat transcript except via users, but never via server to server.

    * chambers: a global chatroom, located at a server, maybe with a MQTT anyone could subscribe to.

    This never left the early planning stages though, but I thought the segregation between federated chatrooms and regular chatrooms was of interest to keep in sync with IRC open but closed nature of chats.

    • Fastidious 18 minutes ago
      That seems to be similar on this one. &room is local, while #room is federated.
  • aunderscored 51 minutes ago
    Interesting. Why not use an open link network? These will result in around the same state. Spam _will_ be an issue here, in general. And with a different backend you're going to struggle to use preexisting tooling to handle it.

    Using & channels is fun, I'd be interested to see how many bots and clients fall over dead when faced with that particular bit of IRC history.

    • someonebaggy 19 minutes ago
      IRC linking is a mess, in part due to the spanning tree requirement. Also the server to server protocol in the RFC is spoken by zero servers so you have to pick which unofficial protocol you like best. May as well invent your own that actually fits your use case.
  • Marlinski 46 minutes ago
    Give me a day and I'll implement it in my agent-oriented IRC server https://github.com/marlinski/airc !
  • someonebaggy 36 minutes ago
    Vibecoded?
  • myaccountonhn 1 hour ago
    I quite like this, but it feels like spam could quickly become a concern.
    • davidcollantes 1 hour ago
      That is always a concern, yes. You can block users, and entire instances, that spam.
  • shreddit 1 hour ago
    This is exactly what i was thinking about for the last few weeks (but am too stupid to implement myself).

    It’s like email just for IM…

    • zaik 19 minutes ago
      You're in luck: Some people already thought of this, submitted an RFC to the IETF and implemented it. It goes by the name XMPP.
    • yvdriess 1 hour ago
      Many earth rotations ago, I was IMing through an mIRC bot because I refused to install MSN. This kind of reminds me of that too.
      • Athas 53 minutes ago
        I used Bitlbee until not that many earth rotations ago - it's an IRC daemon that provides bridging of various other chat protocols. It worked way better than you would expect, especially back in the day when you could use XMPP to connect to the various proprietary chat services.

        I didn't stop using it until I stopped caring about those chat services.

        • doubled112 31 minutes ago
          These days I run a Matrix home server with bridges to Slack and WhatsApp so I can use fewer chat clients.

          I do wish the Matrix client situation was less messy.

  • padolsey 1 hour ago
    Both cool and worryingly convenient for the botswarms we've been warned of...
  • calvinmorrison 19 minutes ago
    I recall this bait and switch. It was called Slack
  • okwhateverdude 1 hour ago
    lol, so XMPP, but instead of XML, it is IRC. Alright, I dig it.
    • singpolyma3 5 minutes ago
      Instead of TCP+XML it's HTTP+JSON

      The IRC is just a front end. Could use any front end

  • nahid-fahh 57 minutes ago
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