9 comments

  • askonomm 19 minutes ago
    Any move away from the abusive big tech that exists in USA is a good move in my book. Microsoft just recently made a new patent where they will monitor you via camera and microphone to block your program/game to show you ads, and per ads viewed, you then earn credit to be able to use your program/game. It is absolutely wild to me how a corporation can be so toxic and abusive to its users and still be in business.
    • MonkeyClub 8 minutes ago
      Black Mirror has unwittingly been offering a lot of nice, horrible ideas.
  • ricardobeat 36 minutes ago
    A note to the developers in the project, if anyone is reading: your repositories are in violation of the new Codeberg policy that forbids AI-generated code [1].

    [1] https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-...

    • KomoD 30 minutes ago
      And Codeberg also blocks real people from accessing it, for who knows what reason. I just get "Access denied." with no more info.

      But they do let me visit blog.codeberg.org

      • sevenzero 16 minutes ago
        Had that issue with HTTP accessed repo, switching to SSH solved it for me.
    • gagik_co 28 minutes ago
      It’d make the most sense for the Dutch government (or DAWO) to have their own Forgejo instance if the goal is data sovereignty.

      edit: looks like this was originally the case and then they moved?

      • utopiah 23 minutes ago
        clearly shows the need for federated forges, where you get to decide on your own rules but you still benefit from interacting with a broader set of collaborators.
    • NoahZuniga 31 minutes ago
      Their instance is self hosted right, so this doesn't apply I think.
    • graemep 29 minutes ago
      Is it on Codeberg? I looked self-hosted to me.
    • docheinestages 12 minutes ago
      Codeberg is trying to solve the right problem with the wrong solution. But hey, it's democratic!
    • streetfighter64 29 minutes ago
      Fair note, but I'd avoid the cheap shot "more open". You'll just bring up the old flame wars about whether the MIT-style or GNU-style licenses are more open.

      The same applies here, is it really "more open" to allow corporations to profit by removing the openness of your work?

      • ricardobeat 13 minutes ago
        Point taken, trimmed that. I do take issue with their position but not the place to start a new discussion.
    • embedding-shape 13 minutes ago
      Did you actually read through that post you linked? You realize not every project that was ever touched by a LLM is being thrown off? Read the "Some early, but informal guidelines" particularly, as you've seemingly missed that.

      They're targeting slop and essentially spam, not everything that could possibly have been built by LLMs.

      • ricardobeat 2 minutes ago
        Quotes:

            > if your project otherwise does not involve the heavy use of LLMs
        
            > If you see yourself on this list, you don't need to move right away, but
            there might be other places that better fit your needs:
        
            - Projects written and maintained with heavy use of LLMs
            - Projects where the amount of resources (e.g. storage, CI/CD) is significantly larger than what the involved amount of people could have created by hand
            ...
        
        All of the commits I browsed here seem to be LLM-assisted. Yes, it's fuzzy, and that is a problem - "likely to be tolerated" is not a great policy to have your entire government depending on.

        Personally, the refusal on "Projects heavily tied to the LLM ecosystem, e.g. LLM-written tools to ease LLM usage" is enough reason to move out as that's half of what I've been working on.

      • wafflemaker 8 minutes ago
        Not OP, but I stand corrected. Thought it was 100% no generated code. Now I know better, thanks! Looks like codeberg aren't as mad as I thought.
    • schnebbau 15 minutes ago
      Codeberg are going to have issues in the future when all code is AI generated (except for artisanal code of course, written for the love of the craft but not to achieve anything of merit).
      • max_streese 9 minutes ago
        Assuming writing code by hand is slower (which I agree with), why can't it still have merit compared to code written via llm harness?
  • solarkraft 41 minutes ago
    Awesome! I believe NixOS is perfect for systems you just want to work and track reproducibly, like appliances (which a lot of server software is supposed to be). I’m glad people smarter than me are actually able to realize its advantages =)

    In the same space, also check out openDesk initiated by the German Government (https://www.opendesk.eu/en) and La Suite by the French one (https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/).

    AFAIK, there has been some collaboration with the German government on La Suite, not sure about the others.

    • mastermage 36 minutes ago
      This realy would be a great way to foster collaboration within the EU. To create an own independant Ecosystem outside of the microsoft world.
  • vanschelven 37 minutes ago
    For a second I was worried that the actual code behind this was dead in the water ("3 months ago") but it's just one more click away:

    https://code.overheid.nl/MinBZK/DAWO-NixOS

  • jimnotgym 17 minutes ago
    To save anyone else I asked Claude

    "NixOS is a Linux distribution where your whole system is defined in one configuration file."

    I didn't get that from looking at their website...

    • vustagc 3 minutes ago
    • russfink 3 minutes ago
      Hopefully the config is a little more descriptive than their README.md
    • sevenzero 14 minutes ago
      NixOS is also unnecessarily complicated and it's easy for someone that doesn't want to read 1000 pages of documentation to brick your system.

      Probably has its uses, tried it twice myself and both times were a lot of struggling.

      For me even Arch was easier to configure than Nix.

      • chpatrick 0 minutes ago
        The problem with Arch is that configuration is by hand so you have to do it every time. With Nix you configure it once and then you can deploy it anywhere. Also it's pretty much impossible to break since the system is immutable and you can boot to a different revision any time.
      • dminik 2 minutes ago
        Each nixos rebuild creates a snapshot. While I also eventually moved off of nixos, I've yet to get a system that was as stable as it.
      • TitaRusell 2 minutes ago
        The history of the Netherlands is all about making things unnecessarily complicated.

        When lesser nations rally around the flag and elect dictators we have meetings and consultations.

    • aaron695 1 minute ago
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  • bialyalibaba 31 minutes ago
    Nixpkgs should reduce package count. Waiting 2 days for unbound CVE patch merge is unbearable.
  • KomoD 32 minutes ago
    Site doesn't work for me.

    www.dawo.community took too long to respond.

    • ndom91 5 minutes ago
      Are you in the US? Hehe
  • einpoklum 19 minutes ago
    What is it that they need/add above NixOS defaults?
  • parlortricks 34 minutes ago
    This is great, would love to understand why Nix over Lix or Guix.