7 comments

  • dtf 1 hour ago
    NATS - the same system that crashed in August 2023 [1] due to an id clash, causing 2000 flights to be cancelled and days of chaos.

    [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37461695

  • illwrks 41 minutes ago
    For anyone stranded, read up on UK261/EU261 and your airlines application process to be reimbursed. As far as I’m aware it’s not likely to happen automatically, you need to initiate the process (and record audio/video just in case proof is needed)
    • ktallett 37 minutes ago
      You won't get compensation for ATC issues, but you will be reimbursed.
  • johnnyApplePRNG 6 minutes ago
    In the middle of a highly geopolitically sensitive moment where there's been bombs at other European airports recently?

    Color me suspicious.

    • heyitsmedotjayb 4 minutes ago
      Immediately after UK announced sanctions on illegal settlements...
  • foxwell_1959 24 minutes ago
    Got me confused with that title, thinking what “100 seconds of flights” would look like.
  • doublerabbit 59 minutes ago
    Including mine. I'm not angry because my flight was cancelled. It's a pain in the arse but what really infuriates me is the "We are terribly sorry" these PR releases give. I've been on hold for three hours with British Airlines and it's "we are sorry", no you're not.

    "We are truly sorry for the ongoing flight disruption" is what infuriates the situation; when words have no meaning behind the phase. Pixelated hold-music I am sure is designed to make you rage further.

    • ryandrake 4 minutes ago
      Whenever a company communicates how "sorry" they are, I can't help but think about South Park[1].

      1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u0EL_u4nvw

    • mcmcmc 7 minutes ago
      [delayed]
    • Daviey 53 minutes ago
      My wife is currently at Gatwick, supposed to have taken off 2 hours ago, but no update.... The frustrating thing is the complete lack of information. I cannot comprehend how nobody knows what the situation is. I mean, is aircraft on the tarmac yet? Has it left it's previous destination yet? etc.

      Worst part is, likely no compensation as it isn't the airlines "fault".

      • dylan604 27 minutes ago
        Why the use of scare quotes? It's not their fault. The airline arranged for flight crew, had the plane available, yet something outside of their control is preventing them from doing the deed. It's no different to the airline if a sudden bit of weather came along preventing the flight from taking off.
        • donalhunt 0 minutes ago
          I think the frustration comes from airlines not being able to accurately predict what the impact of a delay will be for the schedule for the remainder of the day, following day. They always hope they'll be able to recover some of the schedule with fast turnarounds.

          On a recent trip (when I encountered issues on every leg — cancellations, delays, missed connections, you name it), it is clear that airlines are incentivised to not communicate delays until it is clear the delay can't be recovered. In one case, at the airline's hub, the airport displays were showing a 2 hour delay and their app showed on-time departure (to the point I had to go and ask which source to trust). Having been a frequent flyer in the past I was able to determine that the delay was likely (but airlines can swap in equipment at hubs and mitigate the delay).

          Once you do have a delay the ripples are complex to handle. You have some passengers that were meant to connect to other flights. You have some that won't travel at all die to the cancellation. You then have 100+ people who you somehow have to accommodate in the coming days when flight loads are hopefully already 90+%.

          To be fair to my airline, their app was actually great at offering me a rebooking option the following day when my flight was cancelled. Unfortunately, the option I selected resulted in a non-direct flight with a transfer time that was impossible in reality (shouldn't have been offered in my opinion). I was literally rebooked 5mins after they declared the flight cancelled, skipped the queues back in the departure area (I don't think the local service agents even knew about the app) and drove home to my family for an extra night.

    • colechristensen 26 minutes ago
      People will be angry regardless of what they say, some if they say they're sorry, some if they don't say they're sorry. Regardless of what they say, some set of people or another is going to come out and be angry about it.

      What do you hope to accomplish with the phone call?

      Failures happen, does it make a difference if there's someone in charge feeling a strong emotion about it? Do the call center staff have to feel genuine guilt as if their mediocre job somehow made them personally responsible?

      Being angry is just as useless as faking being sorry, all they're doing is acknowledging a screwup in an automated message. Give them a break.

      • lbriner 18 minutes ago
        I suspect there is a name for thinking that, "if I do something, it will get resolved quicker". Lots of us won't just sit there and wait for someone to come and tell us when it is fixed because we don't trust that other people also want to resolve the problem.
    • ktallett 53 minutes ago
      Do you expect them to employ enough staff to answer passenger calls for this rare occasion? That is not good business.
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