Decoy Font

(mixfont.com)

78 points | by ray__ 1 hour ago

19 comments

  • gilesvangruisen 1 minute ago
    Sol (high)

    "[screenshot] there's a hidden message in this text what is it"

    "The hidden message is “HAPPY HUMAN.”

    The visible outlines say “SORRY ROBOT,” but if you blur or squint at it, the shading underneath reads “HAPPY HUMAN.”"

  • OsrsNeedsf2P 1 hour ago
    Is it useful? No. Does it stop AI from reading it? Also no. But is it cool? Yes, it is very cool.
    • inigyou 46 minutes ago
      The demonstration shows that it does stop AI
      • sheept 40 minutes ago
        It only works if you give it a screenshot, but it wouldn't work to block AI scrapers or fetch tools, and I think if printed out, it wouldn't work reliably if you took a photo, especially from afar
      • legohead 31 minutes ago
        I made an image and it fooled GPT. I asked it to look for a hidden message and it found the blurred word.

        Still cool+fun though.

    • CGMthrowaway 20 minutes ago
      > Is it useful? No

      Seems like it might have some use thwarting Ring/Flock/etc cameras within a specific proximity.

      It's giving major "They Live" vibes.

    • Cshaya 27 minutes ago
      sometimes in life there is no reason to kick a rock around besides having fun ;)
    • ryant123 54 minutes ago
      Yeah, it looks good
  • mrweasel 58 minutes ago
    Admittedly I'm a bit salty about LLMs due to they constant attacks on our infrastructure, the damage their doing to peoples minds and the general lack of morals shown by the AI companies, but things like this is rather childish and not really a solution to anything.
    • fckgw 10 minutes ago
      Have you no whimsy?
  • Dwedit 1 hour ago
    This is just level of detail. Gemma E4B reads the sharper text until you resize down to 150x150, then it reads the other text.
    • crazygringo 52 minutes ago
      As do I. The hero image clearly says "SORRY ROBOT" to me, which is the message supposedly intended for AI... kind of a fail.

      It's only when I squint hard that I can see "HAPPY HUMAN".

      • hananova 43 minutes ago
        You’re doing it the wrong way around, try intentionally letting your eyes defocus.
    • AlotOfReading 44 minutes ago
      Downsizing is effectively low pass filtering, so that's expected. Any scheme that transmits different messages in different frequency bands is going to be susceptible to a similar attack.
  • voidnullvalue 1 hour ago
    I generated a skill.md that reads this trivially. What kind of testing are you doing prior to release?

    https://gist.github.com/voidnullvalue/620607d3c1773f8e7d83fb...

  • shlewis 1 hour ago
    Not even AI. I think I can write PIL script that will fix the font to be read by any ocr software.
  • btbuildem 30 minutes ago
    Very neat! I like how the decoy text is less visible to the human eye than the "hidden" message, but it's the other way for the image models. Well done!
  • MinimalAction 53 minutes ago
    Extremely cool. I'm sure they'll eventually be trained to read it, but it's nice until then to trick AI.

    I'm mad at AI companies for stealing texts from the entire internet knowledge base and now privatizing those profits in some sense.

  • meerita 53 minutes ago
    I am still figuring out what use case this might have. Why would you want to deceive an AI? Not to mention that, eventually, all AI systems will end up reading it.
  • samschooler 1 hour ago
    I think this would be more interesting if the underlying letters were the fake letters as well. For usability it wouldn't be as good as you'd need an encoder, but it'd be cool because an AI with browser access couldn't read the contents either.
    • wronex 45 minutes ago
      I was thinking this too. Then it might as well look like a normal font. But copy-paste and you get a garbled mess. Screen readers though.
  • noman-land 1 hour ago
    This seems like it would absolutely wreck the experience for people using screen readers.
    • atarian 1 hour ago
      How? AFAIK screen readers don’t do OCR.
      • kps 55 minutes ago
        The assumption is that if you use this alone to try to convey information to a human, a human with a visual disability can't use it. If you also provide a text channel (e.g. `ALT="…"`) then the LLM can use that and doesn't need to read the confusing image.
    • cush 1 hour ago
      It only works as a decoy when you give it to the LLM as an image. As html it appears like normal human friendly text, which is what screen readers use to interpret the text.
  • paularmstrong 1 hour ago
    Can someone explain the actual use-case here? I'm struggling with this because it also hides the message from myself, making it incredibly hard to type because I have no confirmation that I hit the right keys on the keyboard.
    • certifiedloud 1 hour ago
      Just squint and it'll become clear.
    • tomtheelder 1 hour ago
      Zoom out and you'll see the hidden message
  • hyperhello 57 minutes ago
    How does it know HAPPY HUMAN translates to SORRY ROBOT? Is there a cycle in there or something?
    • pavon 37 minutes ago
      I don't think the font can actually do that - I think it is a hand-crafted example of the idea. The later examples all have random letters for the decoy text.
  • deadbabe 50 minutes ago
    What would be cool would be neon signs using this font, where the front tubes show the decoy message, but then there’s hidden rear tubes that shine light on the wall in a different color showing the actual message.

    Something like the DAY DREAM/PAY BILLS would be pretty artistic!

  • ChrisArchitect 1 hour ago
  • 9999px 1 hour ago
    I screenshot the example and neither Claude nor ChatGPT had any problems reading both phrases. I don't get it.
    • alfanick 21 minutes ago
      Someone had an idea, neat idea, but solved 10 years ago already.

      Edit: GPT-5.5 says: "The hidden text is “HAPPY HUMAN.”

      The outlined decoy text is “SORRY ROBOT.” Blurring or viewing it from farther away reveals the hidden message."

  • jaakkoc 51 minutes ago
    Cool. Now do an accessible version.

    (/s)