Factories Are Just Rooms

(interconnected.org)

57 points | by arbesman 2 hours ago

8 comments

  • bryanlarsen 53 minutes ago
    I don't think awe demoralizes children the same way it does adults. Kids want to be an astronaut, president of the United States, et cetera. They're still dreamers.

    If done incorrectly, this message could backfire. At that age, the worst label a job can have is "boring". If anybody can do it, it's no longer interesting.

    Not that the author is doing it incorrectly -- letting kids play with pieces of the factory process is very much the opposite of boring.

    It's only later on in life to kids get hammered into them that they can't do hard things.

  • simonbarker87 25 minutes ago
    I setup and ran a small (10 people) factory many years ago in the UK. Hand assembly and a bit of soldering. It was the most enjoyable work I’ve ever done. I built custom jigs, worked with my team to improve the process, managed inventory, line balancing, work in progress, dispatching, deliveries, built palette racking, learned about kanban and buffers, wrote software to manage it, all working with a team of great people.

    If anyone has the opportunity to work in manufacture or adjacent to it I highly recommend.

  • metalrain 20 minutes ago
    I think it's appreciation of the world and people to look and think, "some people did that". So many people working together globally to produce anything you see, sometimes over decades and many lives.

    There is extraordinary in the ordinary.

  • spongebobstoes 1 hour ago
    I agree that awe and accessibility are often opposed, and that children are easily inspired by things that feel tractable but not boring

    I like the idea that we can teach children to feel inspiration instead of intimidation when learning how things work

    • riazrizvi 1 hour ago
      There is an interesting interplay between mystery and motivation. Churches/theologians generally are good with this interplay.
  • AnotherGoodName 54 minutes ago
    This is from someone that has observed Shenzen. A location where much is made in garage sized factories (usually literally a garage space at ground level where people will bang out products by hand).

    You might not expect a bespoke 2 ton electric train engine to be made in a series of garages but it really is. One lot of workers will be experts at winding coils. They'll have a rig that spins and a spool of copper to wind on with a practiced skill so that they do it as well as any multi million dollar machine could. Then there will be another shop that forges an engine housing. They'll shape out a cast in sand and pour in molten steel (produced by another nearby shop) into the cast to make the housing. Another shop will make the brushes, another the motor controller, etc.

    The end result? You travel to Shenzen to build a bespoke megawatt scale electric motor and you have a prototype delivered in 3 days. Not even kidding. It's not some megafactory where you will never be worth their time for an order of 10 engines to replace aging motors in a custom 20year old fleet. It's a set of people in rooms making things for low price point at exceptional scale that are easily outcompeting the western "bigger is better" style.

    The USA seems crazy with it's focus on mega corps or nothing honestly. Every law seems to encourage this - eg. The healthcare system which absolutely harms small business owners who have no ability to negotiate a corporate health care plan. How do you ever develop a Shenzen style manufacturing culture in such an environment? How does a megafactory that makes a billion of one thing innovate rapidly? You need the multitude of garage workshops that collectively fill every niche that Shenzen has. Today if the West was cut off from Chinese goods we'd be stuck in so many ways. We just don't have what China's enabled here.

    • arjie 46 minutes ago
      I admire Chinese industry quite a bit myself, though I haven't yet completed my pilgrimage to Shenzhen. Just a quick clarification about the healthcare plans, though. As a single-person LLC I'm able to get a non-fancy Kaiser Permanente plan here in SF. It's not super cheap or anything but it's there.
      • dpark 30 minutes ago
        I don’t know about health care but a lot of stuff in the US is set up for megacorps and individuals but nothing in between. As an individual you can easily get a self funded 401k plan. As a small business you basically can’t.

        Of course the US still biases towards megacorps who get to do things like distribute dividends taxed at capital gains rates instead of ordinary income like sole proprietorships.

    • robertlagrant 46 minutes ago
      Very interesting! How are those garages coordinated? Who designs and who commissions?
      • AnotherGoodName 42 minutes ago
        There's 'sourcing agents' whose job is to coordinate the garages. They don't work for any of the garages but as a westerner you'll get in touch with the "electric motor guy" who knows all the factories to contact for that particular purpose. They'll meet you at the airport gate and you essentially pay them as a guide to negotiate the shanghai business environment.
        • vpcs111fm 37 minutes ago
          Yay and nay. That's only for very small manufacturing stuff. To assure the quality control and lower the price, it will eventually head to the large scale factory. The difference between what happened before and now is that, the minimum order quantity has gotten so low (thanks to CNC and computerization etc), now bigger factories can even handle MOQ down to 100.

          I would advise you against going to those smaller factories -- QC is a nightmakre. Problems will arise. When you go to Canton fair or Yiwu for trade shows, I always, always, always recommend you to make a factory visit, and for the first batch, have a reliable Chinese person you trust to fly there and do the QC (if you hire someone that you barely know for QC, the other side might just bribe him off) and you will end up getting garbage when it gets to Long Beach port.

  • pvdebbe 1 hour ago
    I disabled quiet mode and I don't know what is revealed.
    • vitorfblima 1 hour ago
      I guess it's showing user's location, maybe simulating their cursor in some way, but I don't know for sure how he's doing this.
  • morninglight 1 hour ago
    Sometimes, a factory is just smoke and mirrors.

    https://constructionreviewonline.com/intels-20-billion-ohio-...

  • nok22kon 1 hour ago
    so what is a software factory then?
    • steve1977 1 hour ago
      Probably something related to Java
      • a3w 1 hour ago
        Which is an island. So who put the factory onto Jawa/Indonesia?
    • atq2119 1 hour ago
      A dubious analogy.

      Factories are places for the mass production of identical or nearly identical widgets.

      There are some kinds of mass produced software, like the low value apps that lots of businesses want to have for some reason and that should have been websites instead.

      But actual progress comes from software that isn't mass produced. So choose your ambitions wisely.

    • NopIdoN 1 hour ago
      like a play-doh factory but more sweaty
    • ralph84 1 hour ago
      Marketing BS
      • a3w 1 hour ago
        Nope, a "gang of four" pattern from the book on architecture patterns.