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  • AmazingEveryDay 2 hours ago
    All the compute being built out is very impressive and it's nice to think it could be used to further science, further our understanding, just in some way for the greater good. But I think mostly it will be used to serve ads.
    • tdb7893 50 minutes ago
      It's already being used for the greatest good of all, creating value for the shareholders!
    • ddxv 9 minutes ago
      Unpopular take I know. But ads are a source of revenue for much of the free and open internet. The alternatives are paid features that are a regressive tax on poorer people who can't afford them or fork up larger amounts of their discretionary budget.

      While popups and bad ad practices have always been a problem, it's sad to see that they became so bad that the response to them is to paygate web content. More and more sites are locked behind paywalls.

      • Gigachad 2 minutes ago
        Ads create a terribly perverse incentive to increase users viewing time on platforms. It's the whole reason most of the internet has become so horrible. My email provider doesn't try to drive up my engagement because they have no incentive for me to use the product more than I naturally want to. I'd also be willing to bet that the current ad funded system ends up costing the average person more than just paying for services when they get influenced to buy the things in the ads. That's the whole point of advertising after all.

        We have already long since had a solution for low income people getting access to paid content, libraries provided access to paid books and newspapers for free. People with higher income would still buy copies themselves for convenience but there was a free option. We also have public funded news orgs providing ad free news and reporting.

    • Gigachad 1 hour ago
      It’ll get used to generate an endless stream of AI slop short form videos to captivate viewers to watch more ads.
    • cyanydeez 1 hour ago
      common now, think positive: local sex bots in your area waiting to chat
    • ares623 1 hour ago
      Ads are the future. If you don't like them then you're a luddite.
      • user3939382 19 minutes ago
        Tell that to São Paulo.
      • kibwen 1 hour ago
        Frankly, it should be a crime, a felony even, to purchase something if you haven't seen an ad for it beforehand. Think of the poor middlemen!
    • graphime 1 hour ago
      > it could be used to further science, further our understanding, just in some way for the greater good

      Perhaps voice your concern with your elected government representative?

      Unless of course, you think your effort is useless.

  • altcognito 1 hour ago
    Oh! Thank goodness! 138 megawatts, they might be able to support the air conditioning systems with that much power.
    • catlikesshrimp 1 hour ago
      Also, they said "invested in" which is not the same as paid to add 138MW capacity.
  • wincy 1 hour ago
    So what does one of these full time data center jobs look like, day to day? If I’m a software engineer I feel like I’d have to move and get a pay decrease to actually work at one of these? I mean until AI finally puts me out of a job. I guess I wouldn’t really be qualified to work one of these jobs?
    • fc417fc802 39 minutes ago
      Why would a datacenter employ an on site software engineer though? Anyway amazon already has plenty of those in house.

      Outside of construction I don't believe datacenters employ many people locally.

      • JumpCrisscross 9 minutes ago
        > Why would a datacenter employ an on site software engineer though?

        It would be rather silly is a multi-billion dollar investment went down because, for some reason, admins couldn't remote in.

    • RijilV 39 minutes ago
      If you've never had an opportunity to spend time in a datacenter as a software developer, that's unfortunate but also far too common. What things look like on the inside vary company to company. Generally you're in an OSHA-abiding environment, so safety shoes, ear and eye protection, sometimes gloves.

      There's a variety of roles. Security, electricians, HVAC engineers, generally some type of site foreman-ask role, logistics (depending on the size of the place), and technicians (for a lack of a better word, feels like every place calls them something different). There's a variety of roles that often float between sites or oversee many sites, depending again on the scale of the place. AWS is huge. Bigger than you're imagining, so there's quite a few levels deep and include real estate folks as well as construction roles. If you go and look at job postings, you'll even see roles for nuclear engineers at some companies.

      But generally what you're talking about here are what I'm calling the technicians. They're responsible for wheeling racks into place (depending on the company they may also be responsible for unloading the trucks). Cabling is nearly always outsourced these days (though not the design of the cables), so rolling a rack into place generally involves securing it to the floor and connecting power, data, and more often than not now-a-days liquid cooling.

      The other part of their job is "troubleshooting" failed hardware. Again, really depends on the company. Big big shops have "dumbed down" troubleshooting as much as they can - for a lot of reasons. You don't have to pay folks as much because they're thinking and doing less, the more time they spend troubleshooting the longer the server is offline, and if there's no troubleshooting there's not much for them to screw up. I'm sure there are some great places to be a tech where you get to rip apart servers and bust out the multimeter, that to my understanding is not how the hyperscalers who actually hyper-scale do it.

      There's some cleaning, parts management, destroying broken hard drives, shoveling snow off the roof (no lie), and a variety of other odd tasks.

      If you ever have the opportunity to check out one of those places it can be a riot and a real eye opener. Depends again on the company though, some of those places have insane security (metal detectors, badge+pin, turnstile door procedures) which make visits super un-fun if they're even allowed outside of legit business reasons. Other companies... well I'm glad that's not where I store my data.

      Back "in the day" (2005 give or take a handful of years) techs would often write their own automation and even build some simple services.

      And yes, the jobs don't pay particularly well depending upon what it is. Electricians and such command decent wages, but the security guards and techs don't make crazy amounts. I think folks doing contract cabling can come out ahead.

      Anyhow, SWEs are wildly insulated from the realities of what things look like on the ground. Maybe that's a good thing, IDK.

    • cyberax 52 minutes ago
      It's not easy, actually. You will likely need to be a licensed electrician or a licensed plumber. Both occupations require around 4000 hours of apprenticeship.

      Some states don't need a license for low-voltage work, so you might be able to do data wiring.

  • mrcwinn 36 minutes ago
    AI works by responding to prompts. So if you’re dissatisfied with what it produces, consider a critique of its user.
    • whattheheckheck 20 minutes ago
      So much for agi... so glad we have more bs to work with in this industry
  • jasonlotito 1 hour ago
    That's not far from St. Louis and Fort Leonard Wood, a hub for basic training among other things. I wonder if that had any impact in the location.
    • philajan 52 minutes ago
      I imagined the location has to do with the nearby Callaway Nuclear power plant, and the solar projects that Ameren have been putting up in Montgomery County for the past few years.
    • shermantanktop 1 hour ago
      How so? Not seeing the connection.
      • logankeenan 57 minutes ago
        Data centers are critical infrastructure and having them near military bases could be seen as a security benefit.

        The AWS status page still shows UAE as disrupted https://health.aws.amazon.com/health/status

        • stonogo 47 minutes ago
          Fort Leonard Wood is a basic training base. It has no meaningful defenses.
    • michaelsbradley 39 minutes ago
      It’s about 80 miles from the city proper, out in the middle of nowhere essentially, so unlikely to employ anyone that actually lives in St. Louis.
  • thelonelyborg 2 hours ago
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