Virtual violin produces realistic sounds

(news.mit.edu)

11 points | by gmays 2 days ago

5 comments

  • zokier 4 minutes ago
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  • arstep 1 minute ago
    it doesn't sound as a real violin at all. A professional violinist would immediately tell that something is wrong.
  • orthoxerox 31 minutes ago
    Someone made a virtual car engine that was able to generate realistic sounds a few years ago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKT-sKtR970

    • superpope99 6 minutes ago
      The coolest thing about this to me is that he managed to plug a trumpet into the same engine and it sort of... Just worked
  • mchinen 51 minutes ago
    Bowed instruments are very cool to model because of the nonlinear slip of the bow against the string. A bit curious why bowing was not discussed or used in the example of a violin, just plucking. Do luthiers test violins more by plucking than bowing?
    • nwatson 42 minutes ago
      It's probably harder to model and the results "aren't quite there yet".
    • z3c0 27 minutes ago
      This is my own speculation, but I am a musician who specializes in synthesis so...

      The Karplus Strong technique, a method for simulating string tones, has been around for a long time, since the 80s or so. KarplusStr has done bowing surprisingly well for a while. Plucking, not so much.

      Long attack with a short decay/release gives a very convincing bowing sound on nicer synths, but once you increase the attack to create plucking sounds, the synthetic nature of the tone becomes far more obvious.

  • shooly 49 minutes ago
    Not sure if that's news, Audio Modeling[1] has been doing that for quite a long time now. The big plus of physical modeling instead of sampling is disk size - instead of tens of GB of samples, you get a 15MB plugin.

    It's much more difficult to use, though - you have to control lots of aspects of the simulation (using automation in DAW or MIDI controllers) to make it sound actually realistic.

    OK I guess it seems like this is more of a tool for luthiers than for composers or music producers.

    [1] https://audiomodeling.com/

    • vintermann 16 minutes ago
      The first version of Pianoteq came back in 2006. There are apparently some exotic mid-90s synths with claims of being physically modeled too, don't know how accurate that is.

      I currently use a raspberry pi with Pianoteq as sound output for my digital piano. It got a reluctant stamp of approval from my pianist son, although of course he prefers the physical response of even a poor acoustic piano.